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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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hello and welcome to the skeptics are an

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episode number 379 for the 24th of

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January 2016 Richard Saunders here with

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you from Maggie Maggie Maggie Maggie

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overcast and Maggie Sydney Australia and

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it's muggy did I say it was muggy coming

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up on this week's show a special report

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a special and for me what a pleasure it

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was a special report I go to the

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powerhouse museum here in Sydney and

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have a lovely tour of a new exhibition

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well and exhibitions been on for a

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little while now with Tilly Berlin and

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Frankie Lee now they were gracious

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enough to give me a guided tour of the

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recollect health and medicine exhibition

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now this is a fascinating exhibition the

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powerhouse museum where they have

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brought up a lot of the stored items

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they have that never really see the

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light of day when it comes to medical

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history and what a collection they have

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including I'm very pleased to say some

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things that I've donated to the

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exhibition by way of quack products

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quackery earlier candles and lots of

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other things so coming up at the top of

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the show join me and Tilly and Frankie

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as we wander around this exhibition and

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if you're in Sydney or you're coming to

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Sydney over the next couple of months I

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can really recommend visiting the

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powerhouse museum very easy to find and

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having a look at this exhibition

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following that it's a week in science

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from the Royal Institution of Australia

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w WR I a us Toby you and then I'll

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report on a recent development here to

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do with something called psychic TV

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psychic TV show that emanates from

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Sydney and it's ever there's been some

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controversy as reported in the

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newspapers today we'll get to that a bit

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later in the show there is a lot of news

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about at the moment with a chiropractic

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board of Australia under investigation

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and criticism there's more

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fall out due to the seemingly ridiculous

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PhD awarded by the University of

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Wollongong to an anti vac sir and we're

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not forgetting Mark Zuckerberg and the

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fallout from him posting a picture of

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his daughter at the doctor waiting to

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get her vaccinations but they might have

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to wait till next week well that's

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enough for me at the moment I got to run

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downstairs open up the fridge and dive

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into the freezer shut the door and have

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a root beer well I'm doing that I hope

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you enjoy the skeptic zone we are

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wonderful atmospheric tones of a museum

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and we are the powerhouse museum here in

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Sydney Australia this is a being a place

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of pilgrimage for me for many years I

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come here to do the mystery

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investigators show but apart from that I

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love to come here regardless i'm very

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lucky today to be in the company of two

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eminent people who do we have here and

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what's your position hi I'm till E

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Berlin I'm the health and medicine

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curator at the powerhouse museum what an

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interesting job mmm what are you very

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Joe interesting and we have hi I'm

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Frankie Lee and I work as a one of the

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producers of the Sydney Science Festival

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another great job I'm very jealous i'm

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very jealous so we're here at the

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powerhouse museum today and we're going

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to be looking through an exhibition

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which has been running for a few months

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and has got a few more months to run

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indeed it has it's called recollect

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health and medicine and it's the sixth

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in our recollect series which is a way

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that the museum tackles a problem that

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all big institutions have in that we

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have half a million objects but at any

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one time only two or maybe three percent

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of them are actually available for

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people to look at so recollects are a

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way that we can quite quickly rotate

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large amounts of objects around

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particular theme so that our visitors

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can come and see study and enjoy them

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more regularly fantastic yeah so this

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particular exhibition is on all about

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well it's a section of our health and

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medicine collection there are more than

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2,000 objects and I thought that we

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could go through and just touch on a few

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of my favorites so we're starting our

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little walk now we're in the lower level

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of the museum and as a massive museum I

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must say yeah its massive and it's like

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a true it's got that true museum feel

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about it hasn't it thank you yes it does

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that's what comes with awesome objects

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populated throughout a building and

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looking at some now but they're only

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photographs okay yeah so this entry into

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the recollect is to really try to

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reinforce to people that it's visible

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collection storage what that means is we

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are taking these objects out of the

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collection store and we're putting them

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on display in pretty much the same way

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that we store them so it's a way of

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really quickly and without much money

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being able to really rotate objects

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inside the museum so as we as we see the

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big objects down the gallery that will

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go and have a look at their not on

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beautiful fancy plants what they're on

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is the actual crates that we store them

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on so it gives you a little snapshot

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into how we store objects and these

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photographs on the wall show you how

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they're genuinely stored in our

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collection and they're life-sized yet

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the life-size as we look at the

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photographs on the wall here they're

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high detailed high-res I guess you'd

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call them yeah life-size so this is

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exactly what I'd see in the storage

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that's right so you walk through rows

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and rows and rows of these compact is's

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where are all our treasures are stored

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treasures there's

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hallway hello these people they're not

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looking well at all we've got some cross

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sections of human heads here yeah so

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this particular cabinet is about

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conserving objects and about the sort of

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troubles that a museum runs into so

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we've got four different heads here and

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each of them has had different wear and

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tear based on what material they're made

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out of so we start off with this skull

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the top of the skull anything unusual

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well slightly discolored go see what's a

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little black dots yeah they're actually

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holds their insect Bora holes because

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that's made out of paper mache and so

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than after i think it was before this

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would have been a teaching tool in the

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university side and it has been lived in

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by some phone sex so that's one of the

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things that a museum needs to make sure

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that we keep all of our stores and our

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museum buildings insect free um the next

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one along its it's half actual skull and

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then plastics years let's walk around

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could all my goodness mean it's it's

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like Indiana Jones and slightly

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terrified slightly terrifying so we've

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got real skull but then we've got

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plastics and wire in red and in blue to

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show veins and arteries running up the

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face and the skull and we've got plastic

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teeth and some of these have degraded

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so true and so we have a whole

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department of people in the museum

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called the conservators their sole job

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is to try and keep all of our objects up

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so because when we take an object into

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the museum what we're committing to is

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keeping that object in perpetuity of

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course forever of course yes this next

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one again paper mache oh very well the

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massive crack through the skull is not

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meant to be there so that's come from

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temperature variation when it was being

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stored it would have heated up and

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cooled down and over time over decades

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that happened so a beautiful it's a

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beautiful rendering now just come in the

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other side of the cabinet once again

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it's it's so well done for paper mache

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absolutely gorgeous paper mache models

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they are stunning there's a heart that

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will take your heart away this guy here

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what is please real so that's a real

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human skull and that degrades in a

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different way but certainly not as much

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as paper mache it's not as in danger of

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insect population but yet has its own

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concerns that we need to ensure that

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we're keeping it in a really stable

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environment which we do over in our

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collection store which is under the next

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building along where it's all climate

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controlled temperature controlled insect

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one theme the next one we come along too

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oh it's called cut it well no wonder

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we're looking at folks were looking it's

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in the middle of the room here they

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extend on quite a bit and on red sort of

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material going up about eight or nine

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feet we have lots of looks like

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antiquated surgical equipment we have

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bone saws and faucets and all sorts of

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clamps and things like that and we also

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have an object that when I was so myself

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and another curator were pulling

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together what objects would go on

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display here and we were just having a

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look in the collection immersed in

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objects and I picked up one of these

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little suckers yeah they look like

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phases from Star Trek office yeah Oh

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finally they were the label red tonsil

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guillotine which made me exactly all

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that made me made me squeal isn't is

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oh well but we have such a gorgeous

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array of the design changing over time

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so these ones on display in the museum

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they're just you type they look a little

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bit like a gun but you hook over the

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hole over the tonsil and then you eat

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guillotine but then you look at

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development over time they had two

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triggers and the second triggers pulled

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out these little pizzas that would

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respond to the mall messing around here

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it's amazing it's just innovation in

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medical instrument making a very awesome

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and we've also got a trepanning tool

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here which is the first type of

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operation that we've got evidence human

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beings survived after this is a skull

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yeah it's like a hand hand driven skull

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yeah yeah screws into it you make a hole

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that's right a hole in the skull well it

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was actually before it was to access the

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brain it was to relieve pressure or to

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release spirits you know fake wailing

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that was stuck in this car okay that's a

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real one well that's that's the real one

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it's so interesting and you're right

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about the antiquated I mean could book

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the centuries ago many years ago doctors

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would have artisans make up their

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toolkits and then they use them for the

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rest of their lives before we knew about

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sterilization before we knew about the

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germ theory that was and we have some

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beautiful examples of boxes that John

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would have taken around over here

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doctors boxes goodness me there's a sore

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there they owe lots of scissors and

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clamps and things like that Wow

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let's head on down let alone what a

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collection what a collection it's a pity

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they're sort of like the way they should

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oh hello hello I've never seen so many

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bottles of pills and potions in my life

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I think goodness me what do we have here

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so you're why this is our dispenser okay

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so this is where we're looking at all

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the wonderful glass bottles containers

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drugs suppository formers yield formers

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scales all the things that chemists use

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or sell or when they used to be

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apothecaries and they used it exactly

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and they used to grind up their own make

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up their own drugs I'll be oh my

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goodness such he'll be such a good story

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here Richard you are going to love it so

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biol beans was really popular i think it

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was in the 1950s i'm in the united

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kingdom and beyond and the story

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attached to it was that this scientist

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this Australian scientist looked around

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and noticed that Australian Aborigines

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never got sick ever and so he thought

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well I better find this secret and he

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communicated with Aboriginal tribes and

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they they told him their secret which

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was this one particular Australian plant

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that meant that they were free from all

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illness and he packaged that up into bio

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beans and so it was this cure all of

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course I'm got taken to court and was

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shown in the Supreme Court or the

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highest got in the land to be an

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absolute fraud this Australian

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scientists that he claimed of course

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didn't exist of course Australian

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Aborigines aren't illness free and have

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this amazing so it was just a beautiful

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example of complete pseudoscience

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when they were marketing a laxative film

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but it had a nice little Australian

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touch yes it's it's folks if you if you

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can picture in your mind something from

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your great-grandmother's cover there are

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lots of little bottles like i said

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before castor oil there's aspirin

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bottles it's something like out of the

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Wild West drugstore I guess you'd say

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it's fascinating and then we move on to

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the section where pharmacies started

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becoming more like a shopping what we'd

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know as a shopping center so it wasn't

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just your cast Royals and your actual

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drugs but they moved into selling nice

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soaps and ladies the lipstick and

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cosmetics this is one object that really

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interested me it's this beautiful

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ceramic lovely jar that says leeches on

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the outside once there's money in

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Lance's leeches yeah they're gorgeous

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something they're gorgeous but they're

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very ornate and they came from a

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pharmacy and I the only leeches I knew

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at the time when I started this

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exhibition were the ones when you go

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bushwalking and they attach to your leg

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I was like why why would anybody store

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leeches in that container and so I

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called the Australian Museum chatted to

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some leech experts over there and I

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don't know that there are two types of

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leeches there are the terrestrial

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leeches that you get when you're

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bushwalking and then there are aquatic

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leeches and aquatic ledger so both of

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them have been in fads that come and go

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about bleeding about all sorts of things

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leeches have been used for thousands of

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years with either evidence or no

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evidence so that over time they've been

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used to treat obesity mental illness

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balancing the humors all of that

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complete bump curse of course but

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they're actually still used in health

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and medicine today yeah yeah so mostly

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for microsurgery so if you lose a finger

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or a nose when they reattach it

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sometimes there can be small pools of

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blood that gather just underneath that

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join and the best way to clear it out so

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that you're not going to cut your so you

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cause the least amount of damage to the

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muscle and the area around that is to

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pop a leech on and they suck up the

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blood they stimulate arterial growth

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back into the region there excellent and

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so I somewhat stupidly talked the museum

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into allowing us to have live lectures

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which are also in the exhibition wait

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and my stupid idea means that I have to

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coming up after the break we wander a

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little bit further around this

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fascinating exhibition with that Chilean

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Frankie we come across some quackery and

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discover some live leeches on Manor

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episode 21 with Tim Ferguson

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ring the bell do the thing pull it on

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and make the noise it goes so 21 show 21

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with the Tim's delicate condition you

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have two enemies late nights and heat is

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that correct that's right a hot late

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night forget it is that because it makes

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the brain go fast during the EMS doesn't

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like that what is it well what happens I

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asked a neurologist and she said what

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happens is like anything a brain expands

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in heat as well and nerves expand in

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heat so what happens is your nerves

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actually get bigger not huge of course

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but just that little difference when

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you're dealing with nerves as stupid as

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my nerves well it's like dealing with

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people from North Queensland and hello

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to all those listeners hell are those

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fans but you know what i'm talking about

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bunga bunga or as we like to say on may

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not condone are you hey you now silly

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this looks like something out of World

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War two what's going on here this

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precious little thing is called the

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store pedo edge it was developed in the

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1950s here in Australia by the

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Australian Red Cross blood service and

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Reverend John Flynn was involved as well

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who created the Australian flying

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doctors and what they were trying to

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address is that it's really hard in

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Australia because it's such a massive

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continent that it's hard to get medical

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supplies to people who are living

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remotely or orally in Australia and so

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this is the little sucker that they came

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up with to address that problem so this

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it looks like a bomb yeah with a parent

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yes so they designed it exactly like

419
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that it's got a conical knows it's about

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two foot long and about 15 20

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centimeters in diameter it's made out of

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cardboard Richard so you open up the top

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and you get two glass one liter jars of

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blood or plasma and you wrap them in a

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blanket and you pop them in there with a

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diffusion kit and then you chuck them

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out of a plane and what they like and I

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I say that by but the ability to just

429
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chuck them out of a plane was really

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important to them because they didn't

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want it to just be tied to military or

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people with special skills who knew how

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to chuck things out of a plane correctly

434
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this this torpedo it can be given to

435
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someone who's a hobby pilot on to

436
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someone who's a farmer and has an a

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plane for irrigation to anyone it really

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meant that the we could get medical

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supplies out quickly and without

440
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specialist training to people in really

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remote areas of Australia it's an

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awesome innovation in medical instrument

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making right I will walk down a little

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bit further now passed some skeletons

445
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and some more giant eyeballs and giant

446
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ears and not well sorts of things and on

447
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the other side of the room here

448
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something of very very particular

449
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interest to myself and skeptics unless

450
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I'm sure we have an actual iron lung

451
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yeah well actually this is the

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Australian iron lung which is even

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cooler than the actual iron lung so and

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the island was invented and developed in

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America but it truly was it lived up to

456
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its name it was huge it was heavy it it

457
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took up entire wings like large spaces

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in hospitals and could only be on the

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bottom floor because it was so heavy

460
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right and that meant that that part of

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the hospital was your iron lung in

462
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perpetuity these brothers Australian

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brothers in south australia they were

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medical instrument makers the Baath

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brothers

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um and they looked at the design and

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went yeah that's great we understand

468
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what it's doing but I think we can do a

469
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better job and they built it out of

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lightweight wood and put it on wheels

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and made the world's first portable

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respirator so the Australian iron lung

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the then took off worldwide and because

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it is on wheels it's got a little wheel

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platform here it's not as big as you'd

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think of an iron lung and hanging off

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the end here we've got what looks like a

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giant pair of bellows which it would be

479
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the year the breathing intake that's

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right so that creates the vacuum in

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inside the cabinet itself because yeah

482
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so they invented this in the 1930s in

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Adelaide when Australia had an outbreak

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of polio and one of the things polio can

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do is that it paralyzes your muscles and

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if it paralyzes your respiratory muscles

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you can't breathe so people get inside

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this the only thing popping out of the

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wooden box is their head and then the

490
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bellows creates the vacuum inside the

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wooden box that pulls your chest up and

492
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down for you so it's amazing isn't it it

493
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is it takes place and to see one here

494
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and to know that that's what was

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happening inside poor people lying there

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and their chest was being expanded and

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contracted because of the vacuum inside

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and what and I've mentioned this on the

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skeptics done before but it's one of the

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things that's very sobering but to see

501
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one you have to go to a museum and

502
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that's so important to remember yeah it

503
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is and this is a stir again Australian

504
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innovation that transformed people's

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lives because you didn't recover from

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this very quickly some people spent

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months years the rest of their lives

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these wheels the lightweight box meant

509
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that they could go home or they could be

510
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wheeled out into the Sun but lots of

511
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people lived for years in these things

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staggering to think yeah

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oh and I'm so pleased that it's part of

514
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the exhibition now we'll just keep

515
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walking down lots of kids running around

516
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here which is really good to see we're

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passing some microscopes Oh what wow

518
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what a splendid selection of

519
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classic-looking microscopes telly that's

520
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there's something that I'm sort of

521
00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:18,220
remember from high school but the

522
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brilliant old ones like you seeing me

523
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all the classic paintings of early

524
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scientists and things like that wow what

525
00:24:28,649 --> 00:24:26,830
a collection this looks like next to it

526
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looks like a leg caliper yeah that's

527
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:30,520
exactly what it is so we all your yeah

528
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so we've got an older leg caliper for a

529
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child and then when you look up above it

530
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you see prosthetics as they're made

531
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today for people who want to get a yeah

532
00:24:48,419 --> 00:24:45,039
much simplified and also less

533
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:48,429
restrictive yeah passing a collection of

534
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Temple stick what a set of choppers look

535
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at that false teeth everywhere it's

536
00:25:00,419 --> 00:24:58,270
better that's over here are two that

537
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:00,429
were designed for one purpose and then

538
00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:02,710
used for another ash grinder it says

539
00:25:08,490 --> 00:25:05,380
your old faithful now we didn't write

540
00:25:12,090 --> 00:25:08,500
Old Faithful on it the butt so this

541
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:12,100
machine you was made and designed to

542
00:25:18,899 --> 00:25:15,730
grind coffee beans right then it was

543
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purchased by crematorium because what

544
00:25:26,399 --> 00:25:21,730
they found was that when they burnt

545
00:25:29,610 --> 00:25:26,409
someone when they cremated someone the

546
00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:29,620
human body has you know simony chocolate

547
00:25:34,140 --> 00:25:31,929
yeah and and so it didn't all end up

548
00:25:36,090 --> 00:25:34,150
into a fine powder so they were handing

549
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:36,100
back earns to people that sometimes

550
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:38,380
rattled with a little bit of bone still

551
00:25:41,220 --> 00:25:40,240
remaining and that's not a great

552
00:25:43,860 --> 00:25:41,230
experience

553
00:25:46,590 --> 00:25:43,870
laughs it's not a good strength for

554
00:25:49,470 --> 00:25:46,600
their family so they made it a policy

555
00:25:51,090 --> 00:25:49,480
that after being cremated people's

556
00:25:53,580 --> 00:25:51,100
remains were put through here so that

557
00:25:55,380 --> 00:25:53,590
they were consistent so that they made

558
00:25:59,280 --> 00:25:55,390
sure that it came out as a fine powder

559
00:26:02,400 --> 00:25:59,290
for people to take home in an urn so

560
00:26:05,159 --> 00:26:02,410
that's you know one transformative

561
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:05,169
design the next one is one of my

562
00:26:11,370 --> 00:26:08,290
favorites oh goodness me folks we're

563
00:26:15,419 --> 00:26:11,380
looking at a celeb and beautiful

564
00:26:18,350 --> 00:26:15,429
beautiful ceramic mortuary table good so

565
00:26:21,299 --> 00:26:18,360
heavens with little dreams here for the

566
00:26:24,180 --> 00:26:21,309
thule fluids you I'm so on the top of

567
00:26:27,539 --> 00:26:24,190
the slab it's just it has that has these

568
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:27,549
beautiful runnels so there's beautiful

569
00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:30,970
ways of and it's on a very slight feels

570
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:33,790
like Art Deco it does it's I think it's

571
00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:35,650
such a beautiful object and then it has

572
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:38,710
this drum a basin at the bottom all made

573
00:26:45,409 --> 00:26:43,570
out of white ceramic perfect so it all

574
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:45,419
the small hospitals used to do their own

575
00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:49,410
autopsies and then in the 1950s we

576
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:52,120
centralized all the autopsies into one

577
00:26:58,500 --> 00:26:56,770
place a coroner's so all of the

578
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:58,510
hospitals started smashing up they

579
00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:00,640
didn't need these ceramic tables anymore

580
00:27:04,409 --> 00:27:02,320
the mortuary tables they were doing

581
00:27:07,140 --> 00:27:04,419
autopsies so they just started disposing

582
00:27:11,340 --> 00:27:07,150
of them this one nurse begged them not

583
00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:11,350
to smash this particular ceramic table

584
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:13,510
up and they dropped it at her house and

585
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:17,530
she used it for the next 40 years as a

586
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:20,110
potting bench because they look at it

587
00:27:24,750 --> 00:27:22,720
yes I can understand that right there's

588
00:27:26,909 --> 00:27:24,760
got drainage it's got it absolutely it's

589
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:26,919
a good drainage it does it doesn't get

590
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:29,530
affected by the environmental elements

591
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:33,010
it's at the right height it's a

592
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:35,200
beautiful objects to have in your

593
00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:37,360
backyard it's stunning you could have it

594
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,030
as a bar couldn't you

595
00:27:45,470 --> 00:27:41,520
I could see much sitting up sitting

596
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:45,480
about to have a few drinks I think you

597
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:47,310
just created a new event all right

598
00:27:51,650 --> 00:27:49,410
things you have here my good is it all

599
00:27:53,030 --> 00:27:51,660
right we'll come passing so many think

600
00:27:54,650 --> 00:27:53,040
we can't talk about everything here but

601
00:27:56,570 --> 00:27:54,660
there are so many things here folks it

602
00:27:59,030 --> 00:27:56,580
just goes on and on and on lots of

603
00:28:03,200 --> 00:27:59,040
bizarre-looking medical equipment and

604
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:03,210
little packages of things and it's a

605
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:05,970
doll inner know what being led down here

606
00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:09,690
or no well what do we have here so we

607
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:11,790
have one area of this exhibition which

608
00:28:18,460 --> 00:28:14,730
is called question it and it is our case

609
00:28:22,370 --> 00:28:18,470
of historical and contemporary

610
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:22,380
pseudoscience goodness me so things that

611
00:28:26,810 --> 00:28:24,450
try to use the language of science but

612
00:28:28,970 --> 00:28:26,820
have no evidence or make outrageous

613
00:28:31,940 --> 00:28:28,980
claims that can't be tested or when

614
00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:31,950
tested are shown to be absolutely false

615
00:28:38,090 --> 00:28:34,710
this is our way of tipping our hat to

616
00:28:40,730 --> 00:28:38,100
what we've had in the collection yeah

617
00:28:42,770 --> 00:28:40,740
from a long time ago roughly being used

618
00:28:45,710 --> 00:28:42,780
a look at some of these we start with

619
00:28:47,810 --> 00:28:45,720
the copper bracelet for rheumatism and

620
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:47,820
all that sort of stuff which is still

621
00:28:51,860 --> 00:28:49,770
sold in some killer shops today I've

622
00:28:54,220 --> 00:28:51,870
been doing a lot of this is still sold

623
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:54,230
in chemist shops one of our most recent

624
00:29:00,080 --> 00:28:57,690
examples is the amber necklace Abba

625
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:00,090
teething necklace which I've done the

626
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:03,510
label that says it defines it as used

627
00:29:11,690 --> 00:29:06,450
for placebo effect in parents during

628
00:29:15,530 --> 00:29:11,700
toddler teabing which we've had some one

629
00:29:17,540 --> 00:29:15,540
photograph and tweet about saying what

630
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:17,550
was it I think the tweeter said that it

631
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:20,970
was pleasantly blunt now I must say I'm

632
00:29:24,140 --> 00:29:22,710
quite chuffed tilly i am quite job

633
00:29:26,030 --> 00:29:24,150
because if i look a little bit further

634
00:29:29,030 --> 00:29:26,040
in the cabinet i can see something that

635
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,040
i actually purchased myself that's a few

636
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:31,440
years back we have the ion energy band

637
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:34,410
and here it is it a museum I love it I

638
00:29:38,090 --> 00:29:36,330
love it but next to it is a power

639
00:29:40,430 --> 00:29:38,100
balance band too which is really good to

640
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:40,440
see ya I just think that it's really

641
00:29:49,250 --> 00:29:45,200
important for us to document these

642
00:29:51,740 --> 00:29:49,260
incredibly questionable yeah well just

643
00:29:53,780 --> 00:29:51,750
but also you know the loads of people

644
00:29:55,940 --> 00:29:53,790
got involved in this it was a big

645
00:29:57,950 --> 00:29:55,950
feature huge and I think that that's

646
00:29:59,870 --> 00:29:57,960
important for us to keep out he's really

647
00:30:01,370 --> 00:29:59,880
gonna remember that yeah and I love the

648
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,380
fact that you've got too many candles in

649
00:30:06,050 --> 00:30:03,360
the back oh they are one of my personal

650
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:06,060
favorite hated things they're amazing

651
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:07,890
and homeopathy I'm absolutely delighted

652
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:10,110
folks in fact I'm we might even in

653
00:30:13,970 --> 00:30:12,090
crystal ball and a Christian just a

654
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:13,980
puppet that's a beautiful crystal ball

655
00:30:18,140 --> 00:30:15,690
we might get a snap of this for the

656
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:18,150
archive to misfit allowed display Oh in

657
00:30:21,710 --> 00:30:20,370
Oregon's Round the other side we can go

658
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:21,720
and have a look at them let's have a

659
00:30:26,210 --> 00:30:23,370
look at the office so it's not a word

660
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:26,220
now there's a transparent human at the

661
00:30:31,550 --> 00:30:28,320
end but will get will she's not looking

662
00:30:33,550 --> 00:30:31,560
too well I can see right through a body

663
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:33,560
being all right through a 70 year old

664
00:30:38,030 --> 00:30:35,730
seriously it's everything wow that's

665
00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:38,040
impressive and we just come round the

666
00:30:41,660 --> 00:30:39,630
other side there's all sorts of pills

667
00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:41,670
here on display other interesting

668
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:45,720
medical devices ora ora goggles or a

669
00:30:51,050 --> 00:30:48,690
research kid good heavens yeah from the

670
00:30:53,660 --> 00:30:51,060
metaphysical research group in the

671
00:30:57,140 --> 00:30:53,670
United Kingdom and they come with lovely

672
00:30:59,150 --> 00:30:57,150
goggles that look like oh I can see them

673
00:31:01,340 --> 00:30:59,160
they look just like old-fashioned world

674
00:31:04,450 --> 00:31:01,350
war one pilot goggles that's right or a

675
00:31:07,790 --> 00:31:04,460
gobble oh my and then you slot in

676
00:31:10,460 --> 00:31:07,800
basically colored cellophane yes so that

677
00:31:13,220 --> 00:31:10,470
it helps you to distill people's color

678
00:31:15,140 --> 00:31:13,230
or arm but that's why they vent their

679
00:31:17,570 --> 00:31:15,150
place right here in the really and it

680
00:31:18,650 --> 00:31:17,580
also got a phrenology head here which is

681
00:31:21,710 --> 00:31:18,660
a classic thing I've seen that many

682
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:21,720
times and what's this fascinating box

683
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:23,370
here's all sorts of little instruments

684
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:25,650
in silences yeah it in very much goes

685
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:27,600
with their phrenology it's

686
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:31,200
cranium it up so these I see it fits

687
00:31:35,090 --> 00:31:33,090
around the hair and then it measures all

688
00:31:37,070 --> 00:31:35,100
of your bumps and yeah and then we'll

689
00:31:40,820 --> 00:31:37,080
know whether or not you're a criminal of

690
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:40,830
course I folks it's worth it to come

691
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:42,450
here and look at this one counter here

692
00:31:47,779 --> 00:31:44,730
which has the quackery and so on it's

693
00:31:49,340 --> 00:31:47,789
it's so so interesting so interesting I

694
00:31:50,750 --> 00:31:49,350
think we've got time for a few more

695
00:31:55,070 --> 00:31:50,760
things will just walk down the other

696
00:31:58,700 --> 00:31:55,080
side here again passing passing wooden

697
00:32:01,779 --> 00:31:58,710
legs and put in here wooden teeth and

698
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:01,789
all plastic teeth lots lots of teeth ah

699
00:32:07,370 --> 00:32:04,650
but boy I don't have a look at this with

700
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:07,380
well that is creepy we have a little

701
00:32:12,890 --> 00:32:10,530
display box here full of eyes or peeping

702
00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:12,900
out at us that's right I think which

703
00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:15,200
ones like mine the top right are these

704
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:18,030
that's pretty that's nightmare stuff

705
00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:19,919
that is no that's the leeches are just

706
00:32:24,770 --> 00:32:22,200
over to your right oh we got to wear

707
00:32:27,770 --> 00:32:24,780
let's have a look after you walking over

708
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:27,780
now pastor Skelton mind oh hello we've

709
00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:31,200
got a little tank here and it's a leech

710
00:32:37,460 --> 00:32:34,350
tank just at the back in between the

711
00:32:39,049 --> 00:32:37,470
black and the plans I just straining now

712
00:32:40,690 --> 00:32:39,059
to see with these leeches are there a

713
00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:40,700
little bit hard to see because they are

714
00:32:48,419 --> 00:32:44,340
they are hidden away in black stripe ian

715
00:32:54,820 --> 00:32:51,370
hiding in the corner there and how often

716
00:32:56,590 --> 00:32:54,830
are they said well they don't have to

717
00:32:59,700 --> 00:32:56,600
only have to be fed once a year

718
00:33:02,380 --> 00:32:59,710
technically but because they're

719
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:02,390
predators I didn't think that that was

720
00:33:06,460 --> 00:33:04,850
fair because they're creatures in our

721
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:06,470
care and they haven't got anything to

722
00:33:13,570 --> 00:33:09,529
hunt or to prey on until I was planning

723
00:33:17,139 --> 00:33:13,580
to feed them once a month after the

724
00:33:19,899 --> 00:33:17,149
first time I fed them on me on my hands

725
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:19,909
I decided maybe once every three months

726
00:33:26,350 --> 00:33:22,880
we'd be all right and then after the

727
00:33:30,370 --> 00:33:26,360
second time I fed them which by the way

728
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:30,380
it turns out leeches have variable

729
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:32,690
skills some of them are really good at

730
00:33:37,299 --> 00:33:34,850
feeding they do it quickly cleanly

731
00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:37,309
efficiently like recipes really yes and

732
00:33:44,289 --> 00:33:40,820
suffer them and not so great but they

733
00:33:45,970 --> 00:33:44,299
let it they've got three jaws that the

734
00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:45,980
the bite mark that they leave on you is

735
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:51,640
a perfect capital y and it is very and

736
00:33:59,950 --> 00:33:54,110
so it's the three draws coming together

737
00:34:01,149 --> 00:33:59,960
it's very clean it's it doesn't itch

738
00:34:04,659 --> 00:34:01,159
because the wonderful thing about

739
00:34:07,870 --> 00:34:04,669
aquatic creatures is that they have they

740
00:34:08,829 --> 00:34:07,880
use different the completely different

741
00:34:10,839 --> 00:34:08,839
to ones that you get when you're

742
00:34:15,609 --> 00:34:10,849
bushwalking so they do not each at all

743
00:34:17,770 --> 00:34:15,619
um and it only hurts while they are

744
00:34:19,570 --> 00:34:17,780
attaching while they're ramming those

745
00:34:22,359 --> 00:34:19,580
three drawers through your flesh as

746
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:22,369
you're looking at them is the only time

747
00:34:26,020 --> 00:34:23,810
that it hurts but it's just like little

748
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:26,030
needles you don't want to volunteer to

749
00:34:33,129 --> 00:34:29,690
be the blood giver Frankie Daniela I can

750
00:34:34,990 --> 00:34:33,139
understand we're passing a lots of

751
00:34:35,970 --> 00:34:35,000
skeleton see lots of displays of bones

752
00:34:38,889 --> 00:34:35,980
and

753
00:34:41,250 --> 00:34:38,899
it's a very bizarre baby in a womb here

754
00:34:46,089 --> 00:34:41,260
but it looks like it was done by a

755
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:46,099
ten-year-old it's very bizarre it's

756
00:34:51,069 --> 00:34:48,409
called the obstetric phantom so it is

757
00:34:53,649 --> 00:34:51,079
what was used to train male doctors

758
00:34:56,409 --> 00:34:53,659
about how to deliver babies without

759
00:34:59,020 --> 00:34:56,419
needing to have that inconvenient thing

760
00:35:00,849 --> 00:34:59,030
of a woman in the room and we're not

761
00:35:02,349 --> 00:35:00,859
looking at the business end of it no

762
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:02,359
we're not no we're looking from the top

763
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:03,920
I must say it's like a cross section

764
00:35:09,849 --> 00:35:07,760
lots of models of internal bits of humor

765
00:35:12,940 --> 00:35:09,859
got the ear canal done lovely there's a

766
00:35:15,099 --> 00:35:12,950
heart just back there coming around here

767
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:15,109
more kids coming through which is good

768
00:35:20,890 --> 00:35:18,079
to see hello hello origami oh yeah you

769
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:20,900
should have told me oh I can't believe

770
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:24,170
that I didn't yes this is origami of a

771
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:26,480
heart that's a no regarding gummy of the

772
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:29,089
skull who's mad at home I'll have to

773
00:35:32,109 --> 00:35:30,710
come back and make some that's really

774
00:35:33,609 --> 00:35:32,119
cool and the kid there are kids right

775
00:35:35,980 --> 00:35:33,619
now as we speak sitting at the table

776
00:35:38,650 --> 00:35:35,990
making origami hearts and skulls that is

777
00:35:40,569 --> 00:35:38,660
very cool indeed and we're coming right

778
00:35:42,130 --> 00:35:40,579
down to the other end of the the

779
00:35:44,109 --> 00:35:42,140
exhibition now on the other side to

780
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:44,119
where we were before lots of boxes and

781
00:35:48,609 --> 00:35:47,119
hinkson the 30s I'm sure my mum would

782
00:35:50,349 --> 00:35:48,619
would look at this cabinet and say oh

783
00:35:52,990 --> 00:35:50,359
yes I remember all this sort of stuff

784
00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:53,000
there's lots of soap here ya and I must

785
00:35:56,380 --> 00:35:54,260
say I'm quite surprised because it

786
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:56,390
you've got lots of varieties very old

787
00:36:00,400 --> 00:35:58,400
soaps from the 20s 30s 40s maybe it

788
00:36:03,069 --> 00:36:00,410
looks like it's all unused yeah

789
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:03,079
absolutely that's generally what museums

790
00:36:08,019 --> 00:36:05,930
do we do our best to keep examples of

791
00:36:11,829 --> 00:36:08,029
things in their whole form as well as a

792
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:11,839
lot of these are just the boxes so not

793
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:14,569
they're hopeful yep goanna royal I you

794
00:36:19,569 --> 00:36:16,400
must get people coming here the older

795
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:19,579
generation and just remembering lots of

796
00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:21,049
things that you have on display unit

797
00:36:26,529 --> 00:36:24,230
absolutely not only in this dispense it

798
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:26,539
about chemists but one section we didn't

799
00:36:31,029 --> 00:36:28,730
get to talk about was contraception

800
00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:31,039
we've got all these pills and a lot of

801
00:36:34,569 --> 00:36:32,510
the time we have women standing there

802
00:36:37,089 --> 00:36:34,579
going oh I used to check that one oh and

803
00:36:39,849 --> 00:36:37,099
I still know 10 Diane yep that's been

804
00:36:41,650 --> 00:36:39,859
it's so that's lovely as well

805
00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:41,660
so all different generations have things

806
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:44,420
to remember in terms of perimeter now

807
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:47,569
what nearly at the end now we've risked

808
00:36:51,609 --> 00:36:49,730
a lot here because we can't possibly see

809
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:51,619
everything as far too much to see lots

810
00:36:56,499 --> 00:36:53,930
of more on potions and pills here but

811
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:56,509
down the bottom we've got these nine

812
00:37:01,749 --> 00:37:00,079
amazingly big blue bottles and they look

813
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:01,759
like something out of a movie profits I

814
00:37:06,940 --> 00:37:03,890
don't know we're just spending over to

815
00:37:09,220 --> 00:37:06,950
sit there yes that they were used by

816
00:37:12,670 --> 00:37:09,230
chemists to store large amount as own

817
00:37:15,339 --> 00:37:12,680
particular yeah the huge potions they

818
00:37:18,849 --> 00:37:15,349
look great it's just like okay I'm gonna

819
00:37:22,749 --> 00:37:18,859
work it out you really are more medical

820
00:37:24,249 --> 00:37:22,759
hacking and chopping and all sorts of

821
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:24,259
things here we've got some old movies

822
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:25,910
they're showing on the yeah we've got

823
00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:28,640
some old ads showing things that right

824
00:37:36,690 --> 00:37:32,630
back old aspirin ads panadol ads

825
00:37:40,420 --> 00:37:36,700
band-aid ads things that really will

826
00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:40,430
sparks it enables the woman gulping down

827
00:37:44,289 --> 00:37:43,190
her first row it says and I noticed on

828
00:37:47,259 --> 00:37:44,299
the wall back there was a big thing for

829
00:37:49,269 --> 00:37:47,269
banks yes Beck still on sale no

830
00:37:53,979 --> 00:37:49,279
absolutely not because when I was a kid

831
00:37:55,809 --> 00:37:53,989
I remember the TV ads yes something have

832
00:37:58,630 --> 00:37:55,819
a Becks I can't remember with me yeah

833
00:38:02,170 --> 00:37:58,640
yeah oh yeah it was a cup of tea effects

834
00:38:04,809 --> 00:38:02,180
are coveting a good lie down I'm know

835
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:04,819
that one of the components one of the

836
00:38:12,099 --> 00:38:09,680
components um led to kidney shutdown I

837
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:12,109
think yeah yeah I can't read I can't

838
00:38:16,359 --> 00:38:13,910
remember the name of it but a general

839
00:38:17,739 --> 00:38:16,369
pain relief yeah it was and it did very

840
00:38:21,460 --> 00:38:17,749
well at that it's just that it was

841
00:38:22,660 --> 00:38:21,470
highly addictive and it also damaged

842
00:38:24,670 --> 00:38:22,670
should keep these I remember this one

843
00:38:27,249 --> 00:38:24,680
yeah of course you do which that's got

844
00:38:30,370 --> 00:38:27,259
the 80s all over it Richard I think the

845
00:38:31,779 --> 00:38:30,380
pastel colors on the show oh but I

846
00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:31,789
remember watching this ad now what's

847
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:33,480
yogurt icing I can't remember what you

848
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:35,760
advertising I think it'll be it'll ask

849
00:38:40,580 --> 00:38:39,210
me she's holding up the tablet isn't

850
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:40,590
that interesting when you see a TV

851
00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:42,090
commercial from 30 years ago and it's

852
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:43,740
like you saw it yesterday yeah that's

853
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:45,690
bizarre YouTube's like that you can you

854
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:49,310
can spend hours of class not that I do I

855
00:38:54,830 --> 00:38:51,810
know that's cool that's going on with

856
00:38:56,690 --> 00:38:54,840
with with advertising from yeah why not

857
00:38:58,970 --> 00:38:56,700
thing I'd was really have lied down

858
00:39:00,650 --> 00:38:58,980
nearly where we started from and we're

859
00:39:04,190 --> 00:39:00,660
just coming to the last cabinet he would

860
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:04,200
helical days that's old yeah these are

861
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:07,050
samples of penicillin from howard

862
00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:10,050
flurries laboratory so the Australian

863
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:12,390
scientist who with a collaborative team

864
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:18,210
was able to help isolate and produce the

865
00:39:22,220 --> 00:39:20,490
first antibiotic ever we've got some of

866
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:22,230
these samples that's right yeah and its

867
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:25,710
original report wow that's that's a huge

868
00:39:30,890 --> 00:39:27,810
historical importance I love a little

869
00:39:33,460 --> 00:39:30,900
display here these are saviors so things

870
00:39:35,690 --> 00:39:33,470
that have had giant leaps forward

871
00:39:37,319 --> 00:39:35,700
vaccination for example let's have a

872
00:39:40,319 --> 00:39:37,329
look

873
00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:40,329
oh wait a minute there you are on the

874
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:42,430
big screen yeah that's your voice in the

875
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:45,249
background man I know I apologize now

876
00:39:49,949 --> 00:39:47,680
we're competing with me you can I will

877
00:39:51,979 --> 00:39:49,959
ignore you and talk to you and yes

878
00:39:54,479 --> 00:39:51,989
there's little 1958 it says here's a

879
00:39:56,849 --> 00:39:54,489
little vaccination leaflet little

880
00:39:59,519 --> 00:39:56,859
brochure there as much and a Lancet and

881
00:40:03,329 --> 00:39:59,529
comb for vaccinations and vaccination

882
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:03,339
needles for smallpox Wow yeah well let's

883
00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:05,170
pop around the corner here out of the

884
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:10,630
sound of your voice and we're right back

885
00:40:15,269 --> 00:40:12,880
to where we started from an ism as an

886
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:15,279
old will hold as an ambulance from the

887
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:17,680
70s or the 80s here once that I

888
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:19,599
certainly remember well Killian Frankie

889
00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:22,209
thank you so much for accompanying me

890
00:40:26,489 --> 00:40:24,190
around this fantastic exhibition now how

891
00:40:28,289 --> 00:40:26,499
long is it here can you remind us it's

892
00:40:31,229 --> 00:40:28,299
on for another few months it'll wrap up

893
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:31,239
in May so make sure you are come and

894
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:33,130
have a look and this is at the Sydney's

895
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:35,680
powerhouse museum which is a not far

896
00:40:39,209 --> 00:40:37,690
from downtown Sydney if you're covering

897
00:40:41,130 --> 00:40:39,219
internationally it's just near a tram

898
00:40:43,019 --> 00:40:41,140
stop too it's on all the tourist

899
00:40:45,390 --> 00:40:43,029
brochures very easy to Google powerhouse

900
00:40:46,739 --> 00:40:45,400
museum absolutely worthwhile to come and

901
00:41:02,830 --> 00:40:46,749
spend a few hours looking at this

902
00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:05,780
isaac asimov jules verne and hg wells

903
00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:07,710
are some of the classic names of science

904
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:10,260
fiction so let's take a look at how they

905
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:24,410
in 1865 Jules Verne seemingly predicted

906
00:41:29,810 --> 00:41:27,330
solar sails massive sales that could

907
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:29,820
propel a spacecraft using radiation from

908
00:41:34,970 --> 00:41:32,730
the Sun in 1864 the scientific community

909
00:41:37,610 --> 00:41:34,980
knew that light from the Sun carried

910
00:41:39,790 --> 00:41:37,620
momentum and exerted forces on objects

911
00:41:42,350 --> 00:41:39,800
in his book from the earth to the moon

912
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:42,360
Jules extrapolated that knowledge to

913
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:44,970
suggest that light could be used to push

914
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:49,290
a spacecraft in 2010 the japanese space

915
00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:53,490
agency deployed and used a solar sail he

916
00:41:58,580 --> 00:41:55,200
also seemingly predicted video

917
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,590
conferencing FaceTime and Skype in his

918
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:00,480
book in the year two thousand eight

919
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:02,490
hundred and eighty nine he predicted

920
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:04,770
that telephones would have moving images

921
00:42:13,250 --> 00:42:07,170
and he called this device the fano

922
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:13,260
telephone in 1964 Isaac Asimov correctly

923
00:42:18,290 --> 00:42:16,890
predicted that by 2014 only robotic

924
00:42:20,780 --> 00:42:18,300
missions to Mars will have been

925
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:20,790
accomplished but that a human mission

926
00:42:27,980 --> 00:42:23,370
would be in the planning stages hello

927
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:27,990
Mars one azimoff also predicted by 2014

928
00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:30,720
robots would exist that would be neither

929
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:33,750
common all very good he also suggested

930
00:42:39,770 --> 00:42:36,210
that machines would have taken over many

931
00:42:42,290 --> 00:42:39,780
routine human jobs hg wells best known

932
00:42:46,340 --> 00:42:42,300
for his work War of the Worlds correctly

933
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:46,350
predicted in 1913 the atomic bomb which

934
00:42:50,570 --> 00:42:48,570
could decimate cities it would cause

935
00:42:54,110 --> 00:42:50,580
mushroom clouds and result in

936
00:42:56,750 --> 00:42:54,120
radioactive fallout all of this 30 years

937
00:42:58,820 --> 00:42:56,760
before the Manhattan Project they didn't

938
00:43:01,040 --> 00:42:58,830
get everything right however and here

939
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:01,050
are four scientific predictions that

940
00:43:10,090 --> 00:43:06,330
proved a little wide of the mark Asimov

941
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:10,100
predicted in 1964 that by 2014

942
00:43:15,470 --> 00:43:12,810
experimental nuclear fusion power plants

943
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:15,480
would be in existence Asimov also

944
00:43:19,460 --> 00:43:16,650
suggested that there would be a

945
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:19,470
permanent moon colony and possibly deep

946
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:22,710
sea underwater colonies as well despite

947
00:43:27,050 --> 00:43:24,720
Jules Verne surprisingly accurate

948
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,060
descriptions of the Apollo moon landings

949
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:29,760
he did also suggest the capsule would be

950
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:32,730
fired from a huge gun which if built in

951
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:34,970
reality would cause an unsurvivable

952
00:43:40,460 --> 00:43:38,370
acceleration of 1,000 g and arthur c

953
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,470
clarke predicted that with the rise of

954
00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:42,720
Technology no one would travel to work

955
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:44,840
but they would travel for pleasure

956
00:43:49,550 --> 00:43:47,370
unfortunately that hasn't panned out

957
00:43:51,590 --> 00:43:49,560
want to find out more about predictions

958
00:43:53,540 --> 00:43:51,600
from science fiction check out our

959
00:44:13,950 --> 00:43:53,550
website where we've got some links and

960
00:44:23,980 --> 00:44:19,410
as reported in The Sydney Morning Herald

961
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:23,990
24th of January 2016 national psychic TV

962
00:44:31,329 --> 00:44:27,530
show forced off air after threats to

963
00:44:33,370 --> 00:44:31,339
celebrity clairvoyance and I don't even

964
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:33,380
use the word so-called or put them in

965
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:34,960
quotation marks or anything like that

966
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:38,000
now psychic TV has been on air for a few

967
00:44:44,050 --> 00:44:42,170
years now it's a program recorded or its

968
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:44,060
transmitted live i think is transmitted

969
00:44:49,180 --> 00:44:45,770
alive from the studio and frenchs forest

970
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:49,190
now i have met some of these so-called

971
00:44:54,010 --> 00:44:51,530
psychics that appear on psychic TV I

972
00:44:57,250 --> 00:44:54,020
bump into the mind-body wallet I've sort

973
00:44:59,800 --> 00:44:57,260
of known them along the years what they

974
00:45:02,559 --> 00:44:59,810
tell me about it is a very interesting

975
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:02,569
of course now there's no two ways about

976
00:45:09,099 --> 00:45:06,560
this this is a way to promote a 24-hour

977
00:45:11,530 --> 00:45:09,109
telephone psychic reading service which

978
00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:11,540
is something like five dollars 45 per

979
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:14,000
minute it's something that goes on all

980
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:15,680
around the world dial a psychic you can

981
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:17,450
see them on the backs of magazines and

982
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:19,490
things like that but this one however is

983
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:22,730
interesting because they have a number

984
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:25,970
of psychics in the studio most of them

985
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:28,880
are taking calls on the 1-800 numbers

986
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:31,250
the pain numbers but they'll bring up

987
00:45:39,490 --> 00:45:37,010
one who will answer queries live on air

988
00:45:41,410 --> 00:45:39,500
but not really what they do is they'll

989
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:41,420
play recording a voice message from

990
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:43,970
somebody or a message sent in by email

991
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:48,290
and says hello I'm Fred or I'm Joan my

992
00:45:53,260 --> 00:45:51,050
birth date is so so so and so set 1973

993
00:45:55,210 --> 00:45:53,270
can I get a general life and love

994
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:55,220
reading or something like that and

995
00:46:00,329 --> 00:45:57,440
that's the last you hear of them then

996
00:46:03,460 --> 00:46:00,339
it's up to the so-called psychic to

997
00:46:06,130 --> 00:46:03,470
spread the tarot cards or scribble

998
00:46:08,020 --> 00:46:06,140
something on numerology charts or

999
00:46:11,170 --> 00:46:08,030
something like that and then after that

1000
00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:11,180
the gamma nah we'll talk to spirit well

1001
00:46:15,819 --> 00:46:14,150
ghosts or whatever and then just deliver

1002
00:46:18,730 --> 00:46:15,829
a series of what we know as Barnum

1003
00:46:20,829 --> 00:46:18,740
statements it's pretty textbook stuff

1004
00:46:23,319 --> 00:46:20,839
pretty easy stuff they don't have to do

1005
00:46:26,740 --> 00:46:23,329
interaction live on air with anybody who

1006
00:46:28,570 --> 00:46:26,750
calls in that sort of done privately

1007
00:46:34,420 --> 00:46:28,580
to give you a taste here's a little

1008
00:46:36,970 --> 00:46:34,430
sample of a typical session now we have

1009
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:36,980
a whole team of psychics here at psychic

1010
00:46:42,250 --> 00:46:39,530
TV and they're available to you on

1011
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:42,260
option 5 and they're available 24 hours

1012
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:44,810
a day so we've got our at-home psychic

1013
00:46:48,010 --> 00:46:46,640
so please give us a call if you would

1014
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:48,020
like to speak to one of them you can

1015
00:46:53,730 --> 00:46:51,410
press option 5 and dial the 1-800 number

1016
00:46:56,590 --> 00:46:53,740
or the 1 900 number on the screen and

1017
00:46:57,610 --> 00:46:56,600
follow the prompts and press option 5 if

1018
00:47:01,360 --> 00:46:57,620
you'd like to speak to one of our

1019
00:47:03,490 --> 00:47:01,370
at-home psychics so in the meantime we

1020
00:47:07,060 --> 00:47:03,500
have a voice message for you even now on

1021
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:07,070
dishes for me thanks hi Maurice Veronica

1022
00:47:19,090 --> 00:47:14,000
like this to the 657 I would like you I

1023
00:47:22,620 --> 00:47:19,100
know I'm going to make you so happy I am

1024
00:47:29,220 --> 00:47:22,630
where we could tell me you can help

1025
00:47:37,780 --> 00:47:34,870
work yourself or for another job thank

1026
00:47:39,820 --> 00:47:37,790
you very much in school thank you very

1027
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:39,830
much for your voicemail message Veronica

1028
00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:42,110
so she's got the feeling that she's made

1029
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:44,750
gonna meet her soul mate in soon but she

1030
00:47:48,580 --> 00:47:46,190
wants to know how she's going to meet

1031
00:47:50,650 --> 00:47:48,590
him fingers and toes got to be careful

1032
00:47:52,450 --> 00:47:50,660
with the hell because the universe is in

1033
00:47:56,260 --> 00:47:52,460
charge of the how and the universe is in

1034
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:56,270
charge of when so we need to leave that

1035
00:47:59,590 --> 00:47:57,890
pretty much to the universe I actually

1036
00:48:01,450 --> 00:47:59,600
do get I don't get you need to go

1037
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:01,460
nightclubbing or anything like that it

1038
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:02,930
does feel that this person is going to

1039
00:48:06,580 --> 00:48:04,610
feel like this purse is actually going

1040
00:48:08,020 --> 00:48:06,590
to come to you naturally normally I have

1041
00:48:09,790 --> 00:48:08,030
a lot of people say to me yeah but I

1042
00:48:11,410 --> 00:48:09,800
never go out I never do this I never do

1043
00:48:13,060 --> 00:48:11,420
that what you never go to the shops you

1044
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:13,070
never go to the newsagent she never walk

1045
00:48:17,860 --> 00:48:16,250
up the street when the time is right and

1046
00:48:19,210 --> 00:48:17,870
doesn't feel like it is because it feels

1047
00:48:20,650 --> 00:48:19,220
like you kind of walk around the corner

1048
00:48:22,090 --> 00:48:20,660
going I wonder if that's them i wonder

1049
00:48:25,450 --> 00:48:22,100
if thats mi wonder if that sent that

1050
00:48:27,010 --> 00:48:25,460
actually hear it gets in the way because

1051
00:48:28,930 --> 00:48:27,020
the more we need something the more we

1052
00:48:31,060 --> 00:48:28,940
want something it's kind of the more we

1053
00:48:33,170 --> 00:48:31,070
push it away so what's going to happen

1054
00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:33,180
it's it's kind of like it

1055
00:48:37,790 --> 00:48:35,910
they're saying the win is actually when

1056
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,800
you're just focusing on doing what it is

1057
00:48:41,210 --> 00:48:39,359
you're doing and not even caring about

1058
00:48:42,410 --> 00:48:41,220
whether anyone else is there and it's

1059
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:42,420
like all of a sudden it feels like

1060
00:48:47,059 --> 00:48:44,490
there's a tap on the shoulder and with

1061
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:47,069
that tap on the shoulder it's the last

1062
00:48:51,770 --> 00:48:48,569
thing you expect and its really really

1063
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:51,780
nice surprise it does feel like

1064
00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:54,720
definitely sooner rather than later as

1065
00:48:58,819 --> 00:48:57,569
you know it's within two months and it's

1066
00:49:00,559 --> 00:48:58,829
actually quite funny because you guys

1067
00:49:01,430 --> 00:49:00,569
you see me I shuffle these cards all the

1068
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:01,440
time and I'm shuffling shuffling

1069
00:49:05,299 --> 00:49:03,210
shuffling and two of the same cards have

1070
00:49:07,069 --> 00:49:05,309
come out again so it's definitely on its

1071
00:49:09,799 --> 00:49:07,079
way we've got triumph out there for you

1072
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:09,809
spiritual union has come up as well

1073
00:49:13,970 --> 00:49:12,089
because this person is is on the same

1074
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:13,980
wavelength issue and it's that meeting

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of the minds it's kind of like someone

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you can trust on all levels someone that

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you have a great connection with it and

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I'm getting source sides and saw cheeks

1079
00:49:26,990 --> 00:49:25,020
from laughing so much and both of you

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00:49:30,799 --> 00:49:27,000
it's just you you light up each other's

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00:49:34,730 --> 00:49:30,809
life and it's absolutely fabulous enjoy

1082
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the the enjoy with delight the feeling

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00:49:39,799 --> 00:49:36,930
that it's coming and enjoy that feeling

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00:49:42,740 --> 00:49:39,809
because that'll bring it quicker too so

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00:49:45,650 --> 00:49:42,750
as you can hear this is really what we

1086
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:45,660
call Barnum statements it's just pretty

1087
00:49:51,980 --> 00:49:49,440
low-level stuff but I would strongly

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00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:51,990
suspect most of the so-called psychics

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00:49:56,109 --> 00:49:53,910
that appear on this probably genuinely

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00:50:00,109 --> 00:49:56,119
believe that they do have special

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psychic powers many of them do now you

1092
00:50:04,099 --> 00:50:02,520
can't I can't say that for sure I mean

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00:50:05,539 --> 00:50:04,109
undoubtedly there are the Sharks and the

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cons out there who've know full well

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they don't have a special psychic powers

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00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:09,869
but they certainly know an easy gig when

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00:50:15,530 --> 00:50:12,720
they come across one but many of them

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00:50:18,109 --> 00:50:15,540
guess really do believe there's a gaze

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00:50:19,940 --> 00:50:18,119
of cross there tarot deck or they

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00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:19,950
scribble on their numerology charts

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00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:23,369
doing mathematics which would thrill

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00:50:29,839 --> 00:50:25,410
even Einstein I'm sure that they really

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00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:29,849
are delivering mystical magical messages

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00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:31,500
but that doesn't attract as one

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00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:35,250
commenter as remarked and reminded us

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that doesn't detract at the end of the

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day what they're doing is not real it's

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00:50:46,190 --> 00:50:44,160
giving bogus messages there is this term

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00:50:46,940 --> 00:50:46,200
out there called grief vampires which

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00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:46,950
refers to pee

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people who prey on people's grief to

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00:50:52,730 --> 00:50:50,430
make money which some psychics do

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00:50:56,410 --> 00:50:52,740
especially those who are know full well

1114
00:50:59,210 --> 00:50:56,420
what they're doing is a con a fraud a

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00:51:01,839 --> 00:50:59,220
game but I think that really ultimately

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00:51:04,540 --> 00:51:01,849
this is a question of Consumer Affairs

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00:51:07,579 --> 00:51:04,550
now i think and i'm pretty sure that

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00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:07,589
during the program is a crawl at the

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bottom of the screen and somewhere along

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00:51:15,319 --> 00:51:11,880
the crawl or in the credits it'll save

1121
00:51:17,450 --> 00:51:15,329
for entertainment purposes only really

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00:51:19,819 --> 00:51:17,460
so they do the people on that show

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00:51:22,339 --> 00:51:19,829
really believe they're doing it just for

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00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:22,349
entertainment purposes only know most of

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00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:23,310
them think they're really getting

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00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:26,250
special mystical messages to help people

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00:51:31,250 --> 00:51:29,609
but regardless yes it's a it's a surely

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00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:31,260
it's something for consumerAffairs but i

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00:51:34,730 --> 00:51:32,640
don't think consumer affairs really

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00:51:36,410 --> 00:51:34,740
cares about psychics & psychic claims

1131
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:36,420
and things like this mind body while it

1132
00:51:39,950 --> 00:51:38,250
is a great example you don't see

1133
00:51:43,819 --> 00:51:39,960
investigators from the government

1134
00:51:45,950 --> 00:51:43,829
they're checking out the bona fide ease

1135
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:45,960
or the claims being made i don't think

1136
00:51:50,690 --> 00:51:47,490
they really take them seriously

1137
00:51:53,569 --> 00:51:50,700
nevertheless to get back to the gist of

1138
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:53,579
the story it's been reported that these

1139
00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:55,920
so-called psychics have been receiving

1140
00:52:01,940 --> 00:51:59,010
abuse online or even threats and

1141
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:01,950
somebody is quoted as saying well maybe

1142
00:52:06,319 --> 00:52:03,839
the cast needs to be abused i mean

1143
00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:06,329
you're ripping people off the people who

1144
00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:07,710
follow this show are just poorly

1145
00:52:12,050 --> 00:52:10,470
educated or in a bad spot in their life

1146
00:52:15,170 --> 00:52:12,060
at the moment either way they're

1147
00:52:16,730 --> 00:52:15,180
vulnerable this show is shameless in a

1148
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:16,740
way yes the show is shameless it's

1149
00:52:20,180 --> 00:52:18,450
basically a business but the correct

1150
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:20,190
path here is to expose the Barnum

1151
00:52:24,170 --> 00:52:21,680
statements for what they are and

1152
00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:24,180
ultimately to go through consumer

1153
00:52:29,450 --> 00:52:26,880
affairs for people peddling a product

1154
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:29,460
which does not live up to the claims now

1155
00:52:32,359 --> 00:52:30,690
what I'll do in the show notes for this

1156
00:52:34,970 --> 00:52:32,369
episode is I'll link to some videos of

1157
00:52:38,059 --> 00:52:34,980
psychic TV so you can get a better idea

1158
00:52:40,940 --> 00:52:38,069
or you just google psychic TV Australia

1159
00:52:42,829 --> 00:52:40,950
and they'll come up in in YouTube so an

1160
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:42,839
odd story coming out of Australia I do

1161
00:52:48,470 --> 00:52:46,710
not condone people using threats of

1162
00:52:50,089 --> 00:52:48,480
violence against psychics I don't think

1163
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:50,099
there's these people are psychic for one

1164
00:52:56,450 --> 00:52:53,310
moment but that does not mean people

1165
00:52:58,430 --> 00:52:56,460
have the right to threaten and abuse

1166
00:53:00,890 --> 00:52:58,440
people online in this manner so

1167
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:00,900
counterproductive it's so incredibly

1168
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:02,370
counterproductive and this is what a lot

1169
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:04,050
of the anti-vaccination people have been

1170
00:53:09,950 --> 00:53:06,240
doing for many years as abusing and

1171
00:53:11,900 --> 00:53:09,960
threatening people harassing people it

1172
00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:11,910
hasn't helped it their cause so there

1173
00:53:33,470 --> 00:53:15,870
you go psychic TV I wonder if they saw

1174
00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:36,720
hey svenska skeptical the vet vet at

1175
00:53:40,860 --> 00:53:38,740
vatan scope for billing in the boy talk

1176
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:40,870
none hanger of the skeptic shown that an

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00:53:46,290 --> 00:53:43,570
ox 0 alpha alpha dog poop science quiz

1178
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:46,300
or skeptical Kevin thomasville Queen

1179
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:48,850
pave pave bloom tuvo from Des a fat

1180
00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:51,010
spawning vivar flealick our local

1181
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:52,720
training a hunter mill on the topic on

1182
00:53:56,910 --> 00:53:54,970
warm to install that on the fence

1183
00:54:01,500 --> 00:53:56,920
non-local training but from the start

1184
00:54:04,710 --> 00:54:01,510
time 12 your pot on a day is new hello

1185
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:04,720
all skeptics in Sweden I'm sure you

1186
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:06,490
already know that the Swedish skeptics

1187
00:54:11,250 --> 00:54:09,010
Association not only is a big fan of the

1188
00:54:13,740 --> 00:54:11,260
skeptic zone but that we also organize

1189
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:13,750
lectures pop science quiz and skeptics

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00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:18,330
in the pub all over the country go to ww

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00:54:24,780 --> 00:54:22,090
vof se to see what our seven local

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00:54:26,490 --> 00:54:24,790
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1193
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:26,500
place where there is no local chapter

1194
00:54:44,299 --> 00:54:29,710
why not start on yourself I'm talking to

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00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:46,829
thank you for listening to the skeptic

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00:54:50,759 --> 00:54:48,670
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00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:50,769
some reports as mentioned earlier in the

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00:54:56,579 --> 00:54:53,440
show but the continuing fall out about

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the awarding of the PhD to an anti vac

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sir the chiropractic Board of Australia

1201
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being held towards the end of november

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00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:31,690
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months but for this week this is Richard

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Saunders signing off from Sydney

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